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For decades, the Communist Party of China has been one of the world’s most sinister governments. When the Chinese people protested for democracy in Tiananmen Square, they ran them over with tanks. When Tibetan Buddhists labeled a young boy as the Panchen Lama, the second-most important figure in their religion, the government abducted him and he’s never been seen since.

But one of the most screwed up things of all that the Chinese government does is organ harvesting. When China has a prisoner in custody, they think nothing of cutting their bodies open, stripping their organs, and selling them off to the highest bidder, with bodies cremated to hide evidence. A tribunal based in London estimated the Chinese organ trade is worth more than a billion dollars a year.

The biggest victims of this traffic in human flesh are members of the Chinese religious group Falun Gong. Falun Gong is banned in China, its members are imprisoned if they are discovered, and some of them, of course, are getting their bodies strip-mined for organs. There are estimates that as many as sixty-five thousand people may have had their organs harvested in this manner in a single eight-year period.

This isn’t all just some fantasy someone made up. There are people who say they participated in this organ harvesting. There are recorded phone calls where doctors discuss producing the organs.

Mitchell Nicholas Gerber is a journalist who has spent more than two decades investigating Chinese organ harvesting. He’s made this his life work, and he’s even testified before the British parliament about it.

Mitchell joined the show to discuss.

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